Amy Nubson 0:00
So today we have Deidra Gibson and she at 22 years old has gone to 27 different countries. She just got back from Australia, New Zealand like last week. How wonderful is that? But today we kind of want to talk to her about traveling solo and what happens when the unexpected happened because this did happen to Deidra and what did she do about it? Hi, Deidra. How are you today?
Deidra Gibson 0:24
I’m good. Thank you. How are you?
Amy Nubson 0:26
Very good. So you just got back from Australia, New Zealand.
Deidra Gibson 0:32
Yeah, it was a great time. I absolutely loved it. The jetlag is very real, though.
Amy Nubson 0:38
Mike knows all about jetlag
Mike Bruce 0:40
Amy Nubson 0:43
And how, how was traveling when they’re having all the chaos going on in Australia right now with the fires and did you get to experience any of that or see any of that?
Deidra Gibson 0:53
So I didn’t personally, I was with a large group of people for like a university trip. So they recommended we stay within the City of Sydney. And there was a little bit of smoke on some of the days we were there, but it wasn’t anything that really impacted our travels.
Amy Nubson 1:10
How fun and so that added a couple different countries to your, your number which is pretty impressive for being 22 years old and have to go to market reason how old you are.
Mike Bruce 1:24
So Deidra let us know, off air we were talking about, about an issue that you had where you had a hospital visit in another country. Can you go into that a little bit, where you were at, kind of what the trip was, what kind of trip you were on, and what led to that hospital visit?
Deidra Gibson 1:42
Yeah, so I had actually just finished studying abroad in Germany and I had some time off before I was going to go do some like private teaching in France. So I decided to take a little solo trip to Southeast Asia, where I ended up going to Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand. And over the course of those three countries, I progressively felt more and more sick, but i wasn’t sure what it was. And when I travel, I don’t really look at myself in the mirror, see what’s going on. So I had severe edema. And then upon like facetiming family, they were like, you got to get that checked out. And it ended up being kidney failure, which I was hospitalized for in Bangkok.
Mike Bruce 2:21
Wow. And do you know what might have led to that?
Deidra Gibson 2:26
It actually was just kind of a freak thing that happened.
Mike Bruce 2:29
Wow. Wow. And so we always talk about cankles. That’s like our constant, constant reminder of jet lag and travel. So I look, there’s a lot of things that you just said there that I want to unpack because I really enjoyed it, studying abroad in Germany, you’re going to be teaching in France or you have taught in France, which one was that
Deidra Gibson 2:53
have taught at this point.
Mike Bruce 2:54
That’s just cool. That’s great. And then Singapore, Bangkok, all these different places. How Incredible, like the last thing you just said, Yeah, when I’m traveling I don’t really look in the mirror even, I just enjoy where I’m at. I’m traveling that’s like it just says a lot about you and a lot of great things there and a lot of fun things that we could get into for hours, I’m sure. So the hospital, where did you end up at the hospital? Was it in in Bangkok you said?
Deidra Gibson 3:21
Yeah, it was in Bangkok and it was like a really nice private hospital that they sent me to straight from the airport when I landed there actually.
Mike Bruce 3:28
Wow. And how long were you in the hospital for?
Deidra Gibson 3:31
I want to say it was about 10 days.
Mike Bruce 3:33
Man. And do you even remember like what they or how they treated you, not not treated you personally but the treatments and things they used for you. Were they standard Western type medicine or was it a mix of Eastern and Western medicine.
Deidra Gibson 3:51
So it was like entirely Western medicine, honestly I usually say that it’s probably like the best treatment I’ve ever gotten anywhere from any hospital.
Mike Bruce 4:00
Deidra Gibson 4:02
Yes, people are normally really surprised by that. But it was, it was great. I mean, not a great time, obviously. But
Mike Bruce 4:09
But it’s a great experience to know that that’s
Deidra Gibson 4:11
that’s available for us.
Mike Bruce 4:13
Amy Nubson 4:14
Did you have any problems with any language barriers or anything like that, or was that easy as well to communicate with the doctors there?
Deidra Gibson 4:22
I mean, the language barrier was definitely there. The only person that really spoke English was the translator that they gave me, but she was only there probably once every four days to check in on me. Yeah, so when the nephrologist would come in, he would just kind of check on my vitals, check on everything else. And then he’d say, Oh, it’s kidneys and then he kind of bow and then leave the room
Mike Bruce 4:49
Hah, atleast he was polite right?
Deidra Gibson 4:54
And I’d say okay, it’s my kidneys amd that’s it.
Mike Bruce 5:00
We’re laughing but like this is a serious deal.
Deidra Gibson 5:02
Oh, yeah. But it’s funny.
Amy Nubson 5:08
Well, I’m glad you’re able to, like move past it and not be afraid of traveling after that. Because since then you’ve gone back a couple different times and this hasn’t stopped you from traveling.
Deidra Gibson 5:19
Yeah, I mean, since my kidney failure, I’ve been overseas three times now.
Mike Bruce 5:24
And where were the three times you’ve gone since, aside from we know Australia and New Zealand,
Deidra Gibson 5:30
Right. And then the other two were both actually to France. And one of them was so that I could finish my teaching in France. And then the other one was just to visit some friends for a festival.
Mike Bruce 5:40
Amy Nubson 5:42
Fun. And you said you have a major in French, right?
Deidra Gibson 5:46
Amy Nubson 5:51
Deidra Gibson 5:53
Amy Nubson 5:54
And what is your plans for the future? I know we had talked before and you were saying Wanting to live overseas?
Deidra Gibson 6:02
Yeah, so I actually applied to a couple different teaching programs overseas, just to kind of get my foot in the door and then those are going to be in Austria and France.
Mike Bruce 6:15
That is awesome. So I’ve never been to France yet. I was about three foot across the border in Austria and had a great time there while I was there. I literally, I just crossed the border from Czech to Austria on a bike, a pedal bike, literally just to get a picture between the you know, on the border, so. But yeah, that’s that’s, man, that’s just a lot of fun. And I guess a big question we have is, how did you pay for the hospital visit because we’ve not done any podcast yet on travel insurance, but that’s something that’s very intriguing to us. A lot of nomads and different travelers out there have travel insurance. We’ve never really dove into it too much but we want to learn more. And is that something that you had?
Deidra Gibson 7:04
It is something that I have had through my university study abroad programs. But it ended when my programs ended. So I actually didn’t have insurance when I was in Thailand.
Mike Bruce 7:14
Deidra Gibson 7:16
Yeah. Big mistake on my part, but it’s not really something you can foresee happening. So what happened is they gave me ahead of time, how much it would cost kind of they said, it’s like 300 US dollars to like, check in and get your lab started. And then they gave me a max amount of US dollars every day, which is nice, because in the US, they don’t cap you off.
Mike Bruce 7:42
Not at all.
Deidra Gibson 7:44
So it ended up being like 1500 dollars every day.
Mike Bruce 7:49
Wow. Wow, that’s more than I expected.
Deidra Gibson 7:52
Yeah. So but it was a private hospital. So I think that’s why it was so much and they were running A lot of labs on me every day.
Mike Bruce 8:01
And that’s still also about one six to one 10th the price that you would pay in a US hospital, so,
Deidra Gibson 8:08
Mike Bruce 8:09
And that’s if you were just in the room, nothing else happening. No tests. Nothing.
Deidra Gibson 8:13
Yeah. And they were doing blood work. Yeah,
Mike Bruce 8:17
man. Well, that’s great. I mean, that’s, that’s reassuring to know that you can get pretty good treatment other places because I have a few friends with some horror stories in places like Italy, where, you know, and this is somebody I’d love to have on the on the interview where they just kind of dumped her on the street when she was done, and didn’t know where her family was or anything. They just like, pushed her out the door. So, and that’s like, that’s Italy. It’s not Bangkok, for sure. So
Deidra Gibson 8:49
Yeah that would be terrifying.
Mike Bruce 8:50
Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so Amy, where do you want to move on from here with this?
Amy Nubson 8:56
So you mentioned Deidra that you travel a lot. Solo. Um, I am not. I don’t know if I’m brave enough to actually do that. I always want to have somebody to like, talk to one and then also just experience things because I’m also not the most observant person all the time. How do you like, how do you travel solo, especially being a young female? Do you ever you know, get into trouble? Do you ever like think about like, why am I doing this or do you just really enjoy traveling solo?
Deidra Gibson 9:30
You mentioned that you don’t think you’re brave enough but I think that I’m too stubborn not to. So it is that I just absolutely love traveling and I’ll find places that sometimes other people don’t want to go. And so I say well that’s too bad. I want to go so see you later. I think that’s the majority of it. Otherwise, it’s, I don’t even know I have time off and other people don’t. So that’s just it. And I do find myself at times not really getting into trouble, but being uncomfortable with situations and not really having a plan on where to go from there, but kind of just continuing on.
Mike Bruce 10:16
Yeah, that’s interesting because, like, as a guy, a lot of guys don’t even realize they do this, but women do this too. You know, we go into a restaurant and you hear about, I listen to different behavioral experts and stuff and they say, just pay attention to where the guys are sitting. A lot of times they’re sitting facing the door, because it’s subconsciously, it’s like they’re preparing for for anything, you know, they want to see who’s coming in and out and they want to know how to get out. And, and that’s one of those things when you travel, you are far more aware of all the things going on around you. If you’re, you know, living in the reality that we’re in another culture, we don’t know when things are dangerous. You’re in another culture because we’re not used to their norms. So If you want to, if you can think of a time that you want to expand on where you kind of just felt uncomfortable, you were probably safe but had a little bit of discomfort based on cultural norms. If you can think of one of those, I’d love to hear it.
Deidra Gibson 11:12
Yeah, I mean, it happened a couple times. I mean, Italian men are very forward, French men are very forward. But the ones that really stick out to me were probably in Singapore, or in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. And in Malaysia, I totally, I felt safe. Because of the area I was in. I was in Chinatown. And there was just a man following me very closely behind me and he was just kind of like trying to talk in my ear. And he was saying some very, very inappropriate things. And but I felt safe because there were hundreds of people around me, and I was in the middle of a bunch of shops, so and there was nothing to worry about. And in Singapore, it was kind of the same deal. This man was trying to talk to me He was following me down a street that didn’t really have many other people. So I kind of just tried my best to shut down the conversation and the way I went.
Mike Bruce 12:10
Yeah, yeah, that yeah, that second one would definitely be nerve racking for sure. Something that I’m always interested in is when you go on these trips, do you really, I mean, do you just work your butt off at home saving extra money? And then that way you can pay for everything while you’re there? Or do you just throw it on a credit card and figure out how to pay for it afterwards and really work hard to pay for it after the fact.
Deidra Gibson 12:35
I the first one.
Mike Bruce 12:37
Yeah. good, good.
Deidra Gibson 12:38
Usually, yeah. Usually work about 40 to 50 hours minimum a week during the school year.
Mike Bruce 12:43
Oh, wow. So that’s a heavy load to. How many credits are you.. were you or are you still taking when you’re in school?
Deidra Gibson 12:51
I was usually 14 to 17 credits a semester.
Mike Bruce 12:54
Oh, man. So you’re not even, you’re doing a little over standard. So that’s impressive. So you’re just, you’re just a driven person. And that’s really fun to see a driven person who wants to enjoy the world and you’re driven so that you can, so you can enjoy it right?
Deidra Gibson 13:10
Mike Bruce 13:11
Why be stuck in an office all day and and hate your life being stuck in the same place all day every day? So that’s really cool. And I love that you are, you think ahead enough that that you’re not going to be stuck with credit card debt. And you’re like, in our opinion, I know Amy feels exactly the same way, you are doing everything right. And that is so cool because too many young people they just want to travel and they will put it on a credit card. And that’s it and like maybe they’ll pay it off. Maybe they don’t and then they you know, ruin their life in other ways with credit.
Deidra Gibson 13:46
Yeah, that would terrify me.
Mike Bruce 13:47
Yeah, me too. Right. I get sick when I like have wasted $5 on a scratch off tickets. So like that. I couldn’t. I couldn’t have credit card debt like
Amy Nubson 13:57
When you do travel, kind of speaking of credit card debt and all that, like what do you bring with you? Do you bring like a laptop with you so you can do your schoolwork? Or do you? How do you travel?
Mike Bruce 14:11
Oh, yeah, this is a fun one I like I like hearing the deats like this.
Deidra Gibson 14:15
I think it depends on where I go. So I would always have my laptop when I did my study abroad, obviously. But besides that, I don’t normally bring it. I usually. I don’t know I, if my trip is a week or shorter, I just use a backpack, that it, and I shove whatever I can in there.
Mike Bruce 14:36
Do you do you have a specific type of backpack that you really enjoy? Because Amy and I both have, it turns out we have the exact same backpack we love.
Deidra Gibson 14:44
Mike Bruce 14:44
We didn’t know that. Yeah, yeah. And do you have? Is yours just like an old Jansport or something? Or do you have like a travel backpack?
Deidra Gibson 14:50
No, mine’s actually right next to me right now. It’s an Eddie Bauer adventure pack.
Mike Bruce 14:55
Deidra Gibson 14:57
So it’s not one of those like giant unfoldable I don’t even know what those are like the 50 leader backpacks or a little 30 liter backpack.
Mike Bruce 15:06
You can attach it to a parachute if you had to. I feel like
Deidra Gibson 15:09
Amy Nubson 15:12
So you just travel really simply is, you know, lightweight as simple as possible. What are the few things you like, almost like a must to bring with you, no matter where you go
Deidra Gibson 15:22
Yeah, my must haves are my phone and my headphones. That’s about it. Yeah, I don’t know. There’s really nothing that if I don’t have it, I’m gonna be upset about like, obviously a few changes of clothes I need.
Amy Nubson 15:41
So basically you have the idea like if I don’t have it, I can buy it there.
Deidra Gibson 15:45
Yeah. Pretty much.
Amy Nubson 15:46
Or go without it.
Mike Bruce 15:48
Right. Yeah. And then like, with with currency and stuff. This is something people don’t really think of and they get into a country and they go oh, no, I don’t have I don’t have cash. So do you try get any kind of currency before you get to the country? Do you have a travel credit card you use, anything like that, that like you really plan ahead on.
Deidra Gibson 16:10
I actually just use like my normal debit card from my bank. They do charge like percent fees for swiping every time but I find that it’s a lot cheaper than getting cash in the US and then exchanging it or even with like, I usually just withdraw from an ATM and it’s only like a 1% fee so that’s not that bad.
Mike Bruce 16:31
Yeah, that’s not bad at all.
Amy Nubson 16:33
And how do you, since you’ve been traveling a lot and for quite a few years now how do you… do you get homesick anymore? Or do you how do you handle that if you do?
Deidra Gibson 16:43
I think the most homesick I get right now is for my pets… or for like my bed like I just want to lay in my bed. But I think how I get through that is just kind of knowing like oh, they’ll be so excited to see me when I get home or it’s gonna feel so good to lay in that bed again. And that’s about it and it’s just kind of like a fleeting thought.
Mike Bruce 17:08
Yeah, that’s cool that Yeah. Isn’t that funny? Like, my dad always says like he had a couple dogs die in a matter of like one year two years and its heartbreaking when a dog dies, right? And he always says i’d way rather a close relative die than a dog. And it’s kind of the same thing like, like you don’t want them to die, but you know, you feel terrible. You miss your dog so much you can’t talk to them on the phone. You can’t talk to them over Skype, but uh but family you can. You can feel that presence from your family. Every once in a while you just need a big old hug and that’s like something you just can’t get around. But so I guess using that to lead into this next question, what do, do you generally make new friends when you travel? Do you get to meet new people are you a bit of a loner you travel,
Deidra Gibson 18:01
It really depends on where I am and how long I’m going to be there. So, obviously studying abroad like I absolutely made a bunch of friends and I still talk to them to this day. But then if I’m only going somewhere for like four or five days, I kind of prefer to just stick to myself. And I think that’s because I want to make sure that I see everything where I am, and get to experience what I want to experience. And then when I was teaching in… when I was teaching in France, I was actually a Nice, I stayed there for six weeks and I made sure to get out and meet new people and I made some really great friends who all still live in Nice and they I don’t know, we still talk we have a nice group chat that I’ll wake up to 40 messages every once in a while. A little overwhelming, but it’s really nice to hear from them all the time. So
Mike Bruce 18:51
yeah, that’s great. Um, and I like that you really prioritize getting to to know a city or know a country over, getting to know the people based on how much time you have, because I’ve definitely been in the situation where I’m just visiting a new place and I’m only there for a couple of days and I really hit it off with like a local bartender or waiter or something and that’s just the only restaurant I go to after that because you’re like, man, I just had so much fun with this guy and and then you end up not really, you know, looking around other places as much. When it comes to seeing a city do you have a technique or, or priorities that you put in place ahead of time. So, I’ll explain, like for my wife and I, when we travel, we look for the most traditional and local and amazing foods and then we look for historical points around there. So we’ll look for an awesome restaurant and then find like a super cool church or, or you know, just different things, different historical points that are close to that restaurant, but that’s literally how we’ve traveled the world. So far.
Deidra Gibson 20:01
I think that’s a great way to go about it. I think mine is not entirely similar but no, too crazy different. I kind of go off of what the historical points are and then and then find food. Mine’s a little backwards.
Mike Bruce 20:17
Yeah, yeah. Mine might be backwards, not yours.
Deidra Gibson 20:21
You always need food though, right?
Mike Bruce 20:23
Yeah, yeah. And and I really think you can learn so much from a culture based on how they eat, how they drink. And I never want to find like the touristy spots as much. Every once in a while the touristy spots are really cool. But I really want to focus on a traditional food that that culture has, or if they make their own version of like moonshine or wine or whatever it might be. I want to try that even if it’s a food that I’m semi allergic to. I will down a whole bunch of enzymes and I’ll give it a try.
Amy Nubson 20:55
Mike goes off his diet on vacation, I get that.
Mike Bruce 20:58
I only go off for the traditions.
Amy Nubson 21:02
Yeah, that’s kind of neat because I know when I’m even exploring a city in the US here if you don’t have a car, trying to find that location is the best thing because then you can walk everywhere and I don’t know what it’s like over in Europe for public transportation but here in the States kind of sucks to be honest.
Deidra Gibson 21:21
It really does suck here in the States.
Amy Nubson 21:25
Like thats, I think almost more crucial here to find that right location so you can walk. But like in Europe, it’s a lot easier to get around, isn’t it or am I wrong?
Deidra Gibson 21:36
It’s totally easier to get around?
Mike Bruce 21:37
When you are picking your spot? Do you go Airbnb? Do you go hostels? Do you find hotels? What is your preferred method of finding a place to stay?
Deidra Gibson 21:49
I usually stay out of hotels unless I’m in like a very, very, very cheap city. Just because that can eat up a lot of your budget very quickly.
Mike Bruce 21:57
Deidra Gibson 21:57
So I tend to stay… if I’m staying with more than, like one other person we’ll go with an Airbnb, otherwise I stick with hostels. And that’s what I do when I solo travel to obviously is hostels because it’s usually really cheap to do so
Mike Bruce 22:13
Yeah. Have you ever had any issues with, with, like, really worrying about your stuff when you’re at a hostel or you’re in a book bag most of the time, so most of the time you just have all your stuff with you? or what do you do for that?
Deidra Gibson 22:26
So, a lot of the hostel… when you like, look for hostels, you can check to make sure that they have like lockers or that you can lock your stuff up somewhere. So I usually do that and then if they don’t have them, I’m usually fine if they don’t, because I carry around like luggage locks. And so I’ll like lock up all my stuff and then I’ll lock my stuff to my bed.
Mike Bruce 22:47
Oh, cool. That’s a great idea.
Amy Nubson 22:51
I know a lot of people are afraid of hospitals and the I even the idea of it like cause then you’re sharing so much space together or community areas or bathrooms
Deidra Gibson 23:02
Well I think of it just like a dorm, like
Amy Nubson 23:06
Oh I suppose you’re comfortable with that already coming from the school environment.
Deidra Gibson 23:12
I actually never stayed in the dorms. I’ve stayed there with friends but I never stayed in the dorms.
Amy Nubson 23:22
I would visit my sister and her darns I never got to go.
Mike Bruce 23:27
Sleeping in a room with strangers is weird to me, like I can, you know spend all day in a room with strangers, but the idea of actually sleeping like a few foot from a stranger is kind of odd, but I’m sure I would get over it so fast. But I know our, one of our last trips we were looking into hostels that actually, it’s almost like a cheaper version of a hotel where you get your own room, oftentimes you get your own bathroom, but they don’t do any cleanup. They don’t do any sort of extras at all. And those hostels will be, say if a hotel is $100 a night those ones will be around 40 or 45 but you can get an Airbnb for the same price almost as those hostels or maybe 65 bucks a night. So we’ve stayed away from those so far because we can find Airbnb in almost just as good of locations for just a few bucks more. So.
Deidra Gibson 24:18
Yeah, it’s always about like where that is, too, because I know sometimes you’ll find hostels that are right in the middle of everything, and then sometimes they’re so far away it doesn’t even make sense to try and save that money.
Mike Bruce 24:29
Amy Nubson 24:31
And is there is like, certain ways that you use to, like, get affordable, like airfare like do you use like a certain app? Like I know airfare, one of the most expensive things to do to go overseas is the airfare. Do you have a way of finding good… to do last minute trips? How do you do that?
Deidra Gibson 24:50
Um, so for me, a majority of my travel was done like once I was already overseas. So through that, it’s just like finding the cheapest airlines when you’re already in Europe, so European airlines they have things like EasyJet or Ryanair. And they’re like the equivalent of spirit air but cheaper.
Mike Bruce 25:14
Yeah, yeah, they’re fantastic.
Deidra Gibson 25:16
Yeah. So they’re incredible to fly with but so cheap
Mike Bruce 25:20
Do you have any any bad experiences with any of those budget airlines? For instance, like when everybody booked WOW airlines and then they just woke up one day and while airlines said hey, we’re closing our doors but didn’t give you any warning.
Deidra Gibson 25:37
Not really like that…
Mike Bruce 25:39
Cause that’s pretty extreme.
Deidra Gibson 25:42
That’s pretty bad, but I didn’t have… so I think it was Ryan air I was flying through and I was flying from Ireland to Iceland to actually meet my cousin. So I didn’t check in early enough and I didn’t print off my boarding pass. So then they had to charge me for my bags. It was something really stupid. So I had to pay like 60 extra bucks just because I wasn’t there. 15 minutes earlier.
Mike Bruce 26:07
Yeah, yeah, that’s usually a common complaint with is with those companies.
Deidra Gibson 26:13
Yeah, it’s always the bags that you have to watch for those.
Mike Bruce 26:17
Well, for one way my wife and I got charged an extra hundred dollars each bag on WOW airlines. Yeah, it was still… it still made it the most affordable flight overseas we’ve ever had. It was they were like $300 A ticket to Ireland and wow, yeah, it was crazy. And then it cost us an extra hundred dollars the one way each and then we didn’t want to have to deal with that again. So we paid 40 $40 each on the way back so still incredible prices but it was a sad day.
Deidra Gibson 26:45
Yeah, I’d be sad to
Mike Bruce 26:48
Do you have anything that you do to help mitigate the jet lag or, or any way that you try to stay healthy when you’re traveling? I mean, because now you have a pretty serious story that about you know, things going wrong with your health. So do you do anything special when you’re traveling?
Deidra Gibson 27:07
I mean to watch out for health, it’s obviously just make sure you’re still like eating regularly keeping track of like, what you’re actually eating, staying hydrated and then checking yourself out in the mirror every once in a while so your not blowing up. But, jetlag I mean people always say like, stay hydrated, still eating obviously. But I honestly I don’t eat when I travel because it just makes me feel nauseous. Jet lag when I return home or when I get somewhere it’s just for me a matter of keeping my schedule. So I got home at 8pm on Friday, and I went back to work at 11am on Sunday.
Mike Bruce 27:45
I mean, it’s a whole day and a half you had there but that’s not a good turnaround. That’s a tough, tough turnaround from halfway across the world. So, man, I’m sure you’re still like, you’re falling asleep right now as we’re speaking so. Amy, I think we had a couple more questions you really wanted to hit.
Amy Nubson 28:05
You’ve had that experience in Thailand. Would you go back to Thailand?
Deidra Gibson 28:09
In a heartbeat.
Amy Nubson 28:12
So that did not stop you from even wanting to explore that country?
Deidra Gibson 28:16
No. And I didn’t really see much when I was there. I just spent a couple days in northern Thailand, but I spent most of the time in my hostel bed. And then I went straight to the hospital in Bangkok. So I kind of want to go back to actually see what I missed out on because it’s my number one place that I wanted to visit.
Amy Nubson 28:37
And then you didn’t get to see it.
Deidra Gibson 28:38
Amy Nubson 28:40
I get why you’d want to go back then. And it’s also I think, a little bit of like, Hey, I am back here and kind of proving to yourself that it’s okay. These that’s how I would see it.
Deidra Gibson 28:52
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Amy Nubson 28:54
And then if you go back… when you fly now, now that you’re not in school anymore, do you Look into traveling insurance for health or do you just chance it now? What do you do now differently than you did before?
Deidra Gibson 29:09
So through my little teaching program in France, I actually had insurance and then my trip to Australia, since it was through school, we had insurance. But when I went for that one week in France, I didn’t look into anything, but I think it’s because it was so short. So if I do longer trips, I’m definitely going to be looking into stuff. But yeah, not for my little ones.
Mike Bruce 29:32
One of our favorite questions to ask people because it’s like, it’s always like, well, who’s your favorite kid, you know, when you’re a mother or a dad? What is your favorite country or favorite location that you’ve ever been to?
Deidra Gibson 29:44
I have such a hard time with this question. I think, for me, France will probably always be my number one overall, but I think there are different aspects to different countries that I love so much like in Iceland, like their landscape, and just the natural beauty was so incredible. And then when I was in Singapore, I just love like the ambience there and just like how the city felt. So it’s just little things like that, that were all over that I loved.
Mike Bruce 30:17
Very cool. And do you have… what are your plans for traveling in 2020? Do you have any set plans yet? I know you mentioned that you’re looking to actually just move abroad for teaching. But do you have any travel plans? And so I guess, do you have any travel plans and what would be your ideal place to to teach at?
Deidra Gibson 30:41
My ideal place? I’d pick Austria over France just because of the program that it is. Ideal place to teach in general…
Mike Bruce 30:52
Austria does have Vienna sausages. Let’s be honest.
Deidra Gibson 30:55
That’s true. Yeah. I think in the end I, I’d probably just want to move to France or Switzerland, as expensive as that would be.
Mike Bruce 31:10
Yeah. Yeah. You have to consider that. Yeah.
Deidra Gibson 31:13
Otherwise travel plans for this year besides trying to move. I want to take a road trip to Canada with my dog.
Mike Bruce 31:21
Very cool. I’ve never been there. And to take like your best friend to that’s the most fun. Right?
Deidra Gibson 31:26
Oh right. Yeah.
Mike Bruce 31:28
That’s like, we’ve only traveled a couple of times with our dog. And it’s not always the easiest thing because he’s like, he’s an older dog. He’s not a problem at all. But if we walk out of the room without him, he starts whining because he’s like not in his house, you know. And so that’s really cool though being able to take your dog.
Amy Nubson 31:44
It’s interesting, even here being in Florida right now for a few months. I miss my cat, like you, like walk into the room and I’m like, Oh, no, she’s not here with us. But I do think it’s kind of a little bit funny and ironic that you haven’t been to Canada and you live in Minnesota or Wisconsin, sorry you live in Wisconsin. And you’re only a few hours away from Canada. So I just find that a little bit amusing that that’s a trip that you want to make so you can get Canada
Deidra Gibson 32:12
Mike Bruce 32:15
So Diedrich, what do you do for work right now is that is are you just supporting your travel right now? Or do you have something like a gig that you do like a side gig a side hustle or anything that that people can can find you at?
Deidra Gibson 32:27
I just have my Instagram and I don’t really like promote all my travels I actually
Mike Bruce 32:34
Yeah, well if you if you want you’re more than welcome to give everybody your Instagram and heck, who knows maybe somebody listening to this that that is in charge of study or of teaching abroad programs, English teaching programs and you just never know somebody, somebody might have a job offer. So you if you want to give out your your Instagram, you’re more than welcome to If not, that’s okay, too.
Deidra Gibson 32:57
Yeah, I mean, my Instagram handle is @_deedz__
Amy Nubson 33:05
Worst case scenario you don’t get to teach abroad, do you still think that you’re going to create a lifestyle where you can have a job that gives you the freedom and flexibility to continue to travel while you work on getting abroad? Or is that like the end goal is to live and be abroad all the time?
Deidra Gibson 33:24
I don’t know if that’s the end goal and goal but I’d like to for at least a couple years and I think this goes back to like my stubbornness I think I will find a job that allows me to travel.
Mike Bruce 33:36
I love that you keep bringing up stubbornness i think that’s that’s amazing because to me, that’s, that’s motivation not, it’s not necessarily stubbornness. It’s a motivation like you have this desire in life and you’re going to make it happen.
Amy Nubson 33:47
You know what you want and how it will fit into your lifestyle where most people when we’re younger, we just think how do we move to that next step, and we don’t think farther into the future. So I love that you ghave a different mindset and you’re thinking, how can I live my life the way I want to live now?
Mike Bruce 34:04
Yeah. I feel like there’s a business idea where you can train people how to be stubborn. I think that’s a cool thing. So, um, so everybody, thank you so much for tuning in. If you’re looking for any kind of health coaching, you can find me at www.travelwithmikeandamy.com. And if you’re looking for any kind of business coaching, you can find Amy at www.travelwithmikeandamy.com, reach out to us find us on Facebook also @travelwithmikeandamy, you can find us on Instagram soonish. But definitely on Facebook. We have a lot of fun and a lot of back and forth with people. So thank you so much for tuning in. And Deidra, thank you so much for the time and for all the stories you’ve shared with us today.
Amy Nubson 34:47
All right till next time.
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